Updated 2026: Episode 3 of the Late Night Internet Marketing podcast was my introduction to information products as a business model. It also featured one of my favorite early interviews, with Jonathan Leger, who shared practical advice that remains relevant 17 years later. Here is what the episode covered and what has changed since.
What This Episode Covered
The feature segment explained why selling information products, such as ebooks, courses, and digital downloads, is one of the most attractive online business models. I walked through seven advantages that Yanik Silver outlined in his book Moonlighting on the Internet:
- Low overhead. You create digital content and deliver it electronically. No printing, no shipping, no warehousing.
- Sell it repeatedly. One product can generate revenue for years after creation.
- Always open. Your digital storefront operates 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, in every time zone.
- Fully automated. Sales, payment processing, and delivery can run without your involvement.
- Works with affiliate marketing. Other people can sell your product for a commission, extending your reach.
- Location independent. Work from anywhere with an internet connection.
- No employees required. A solo creator can run the entire operation.
I also discussed the range of niches where information products thrive: how-to guides, self-help, financial education, fitness and health, skills training, and lifestyle design. ClickBank was the primary marketplace at the time for discovering and selling digital products.
Jonathan Leger's Three Tips for New Internet Marketers
Jon Leger (pronounced “Leh-jay”) was one of the most respected product creators in internet marketing at the time. His advice from that interview cuts through the noise that still plagues the industry:
- Watch out for sharks. There are no free rides in internet marketing. Be skeptical of anyone promising easy money with no effort. Look for mentors who run real businesses selling real products, not just courses about making money online. If the headline says “anyone can do it with no work,” that is a shark talking.
- Find a product that actually sells. Your passion matters, but the market has to exist. Jon's brother made nearly half a million dollars per year selling porch swings on eBay because he combined his love of woodworking with a product people wanted to buy. Find the intersection of interest and demand.
- Get targeted traffic. Not all visitors are equal. Jon explained that someone searching “dog training basics” wants free information, while someone searching “dog behavior training” is more likely to purchase. Understanding buyer intent is the difference between traffic that converts and traffic that just bounces.
What Has Changed Since This Episode
The information product landscape has transformed since 2009. ClickBank is no longer the dominant marketplace. Video courses on platforms like Teachable and Kajabi have largely replaced PDF ebooks as the primary format. The tools for creating and selling information products are dramatically more accessible.
Jon Leger's products, including 3-Way-Links and TipDrop.com mentioned in the episode, are no longer active. The SEO tools and link-building strategies from that era have been made obsolete by Google's algorithm evolution. However, Jon's underlying advice about finding real products, getting targeted traffic, and avoiding hype remains as valid today as it was then.
Josh Spaulding's Information Product Success Formula, which I recommended in the episode, is also no longer available. Modern equivalents include courses from creators like Pat Flynn, Amy Porterfield, and others who teach information product creation with current platforms and strategies.
The Bottom Line
This episode captured the essentials of information product marketing at a time when the industry was still young. The specific tools and platforms have changed, but the business model is stronger than ever. If you have knowledge people value, packaging it into an information product remains one of the smartest ways to build online income.
For the full transcript, visit the MW003 transcript page. Subscribe to the Late Night Internet Marketing podcast on Apple Podcasts.




Great interview Mark, I really enjoyed listening to Jon and love the way he spoke so candidly about making money online. Looking forward to the next podcast.
Mark – thanks for the GREAT post. I do agree that they have a marketing problem as well from the perspective that their marketing is “one size fits all”… good in theory but not in practice. They could steal so much more market share if they did a better job of segmenting their market and focusing on key messaging strategies. Oh well, difficult to push for change when you’re seemingly successful.
Hi Mark,
Just want to let you know that I’ve been across to I-Tunes and posted your 1st recommendation!! I feel proud.
Heard you the first time on IBM with J & S and could immediately relate to what you stood for in the internet marketing arena . . . love your job but want something else to learn and succeed with.
Have listened to every podcast so far and can only wish that there were ‘daily updates’ . . even if, late at night!
You’ve inspired me to push ahead with starting my own internet business. Very early stages as yet, but (like you) I’ve enlisted the support and insight of my wife and we are developing this site for the UK.
It’s very early doors (UK expression) but I am confident that there is a niche that requires our solution.
Will keep you posted and also keep learning from your excellent advice!
Kevin
PS – currently moving servers so I can get some affiliate activity going on, so please ignore the stylesheet!!!
Great Podcast Mark. I must admit that even though I enjoy reading blog posts it is far more efficient to listen to podcasts because you can do it while also doing something else.
I like the bullet point layout of your show notes… I listed on the way to work today and was able to pull up all the sites tonight.
I’m just starting my first wordpress site for my Grandma… how long have you had wordpress site? What PLUGINS can you suggest? This would be a great show topic or post down the road.
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the great information that you are providing in your podcasts. John mentioned an index that you can use to see how likely people are to purchase items based on the keyword they used in their search. I thought he said it was from MSN but I’m having trouble locating it. Could you provide a link?
Thanks a million for the great content you provide.
Jon is talking about the MSN OCI score (commercial intent). It’s part of their adLabs stuff. You can find it here.
I am never quite sure what to do with those numbers exactly — but clearly “free software” has a lower commercial intent score than “buy microsoft office student addition” — and the OCI score will reflect that.