Comments on: What a Duplicate Content Experiment Taught Me About Google and SEO https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/ Building Internet Businesses With Affiliate Marketing One Night At A Time Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:06:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Michael https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1470 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:44:02 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1470 Hi Mark,

In response to your post below on the 28th Jan as follows:-

I believe the answer is that you may find that eZineArticles may outrank you for your own content. In an extreme case where you post to many article directories, you may find that you are outranked many times, and that your content is “suppressed” into the “duplicate listings” area (that link they put at the end that says more results exist).

I say let’s test it!

I will write a post and put it here and at eZineArticles at the same time. It will appear here first (since eZineArticles has an approval queue time), then we will track the results.

My Thoughts:-

I am no expert, but in my humble opinion I don’t think you can outrank them. From a logical point of view they will have far more content as everyone submits to them. This will give them a higher page rank. I feel unless it’s a subject that has little interest (Where you can possibly do it) it can’t be done.

I hope you prove me wrong and give us all some hope so I look forward to the results.

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By: CD Rates Blog https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1469 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:08:34 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1469 Ezine has high page rank, so it will naturally out-rank you initially. For the most part (as far as Google is concerned), to outrank the other sites you’ll need more targeted links. That can take time. But if you take the time, you can eventually out-rank them.

In the mean time, those sites will send you some traffic.

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By: Jeff Sargent https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1468 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:05:36 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1468 Hey Mark,

Thanks for conducting a test on this.

I just did a test myself on seversl articles I wrote. I posted
them on my blog first and waited about a week and submitted
them to ezinearticles.

They outrank me on all articles by doing a search in Google
using the title of the article.

If I do a search in quotes somtimes I rank 2nd behind ezine
articles. Other times I don’t show at all. I’ll get the following
message.

“In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted
some entries very similar to the 20 already displayed. If you like,
you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.”

If I repeat the search with the omitted results included I usually
rank 2nd again behind ezinearticles. But sometimes I don’t rank at all.
One article I went through 20 pages and still couldn’t find it.

If I do a search without quotes somtimes I rank 2nd behind ezine
articles. Sometimes I rank way down. Other article directories and
other websites that publish my articles outrank me by many pages.

I’m not an SEO expert so I’m not sure what all this means.

That’s why I’m here on your blog hoping you can help me figure out
the mystery behind Google when it comes to duplicate content.

So it sounds like you’re dead on.

I don’t expect to outrank Ezine Articles but what would you suggest I do
to outrank the other sites for my own articles.

Thanks,
Jeff Sargent

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By: Alex at Net-Entrepreneur.com https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1467 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:28:23 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1467 Yes Michael, that’s what I know too. I was just going to write a comment about it 🙂 Lol

When someone uses an article it’s only “duplicate content” if the whole page is copied not very probably, but this usually happens with blogs. When someone publishes a post in several categories, for example.

And the “penalty” is not really a penalty. It’s not like your whole site is going to be thrown out of the index. The duplicate page with the higher PR will be ranked high and the other one with the lower PR will be ranked somewhere… (where no man has gone before) but only that particular page…

Cheers,
Alex

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By: Mark Mason https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1465 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:58:45 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1465 @Mick — you are quite welcome.

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By: Michael https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1466 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:12:50 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1466 Got this from my Mentor when discussing it with him. http://www.InfoProductsMadeEasy.com

If you think about it logically, if the duplicate content thing was an issue then most of the article directories, particularly the big ones like EzineArticles would go out of business. Why? Because nobody would use their articles as they’d be afraid of the duplicate content issue. The fact is, that when these articles are used by other sites or blogs etc they are placed on a page that will have a fair bit of additional content on it. They wiol have different headers, different graphics, different site navigation etc all of which dilutes the copied content which becomes only part of that page. That is just one argument debunking the duplicate content theory.

Hope this helps?

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By: Mark Mason https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1464 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:24:01 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1464 Thanks Jeff;

Great question. I of course do not know for sure. Only Big G knows.

I believe the answer is that you may find that eZineArticles may outrank you for your own content. In an extreme case where you post to many article directories, you may find that you are outranked many times, and that your content is “suppressed” into the “duplicate listings” area (that link they put at the end that says more results exist).

I say let’s test it!

I will write a post and put it here and at eZineArticles at the same time. It will appear here first (since eZineArticles has an approval queue time), then we will track the results.

Agreed?

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By: Jeff Sargent https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1463 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:59:50 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1463 Hey Mark,

Very nice blog. I have just added it to my favorites.

This controversy over whether duplicate content penalties exist
or not has really been a thorn in my side. You know you can’t get
an answer from Google so you have to try and rely on all the so
called SEO experts out there. But who to believe?

This is a straight up question that I would appreciate if you could
answer to the best of your abilities.

If I write a 100% original article and post it on my blog and then
submit the exact same article to ezinearticles.com and goarticles.com
plus tons more article directories using articlemarketer.com will I suffer
the consequences of duplicate content.

I have got so many different answers on this question but I’d like your
opinion please.

Thanks,
Jeff Sargent

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By: Mick https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1462 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:37:55 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1462 Hi Mark,

Great Micro Niche Video, I have got MNF did not know it could be so easy
to get a website set up. thanks for sharing and will be looking into this more.
thanks again

Mick

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By: Michael https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1461 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:25:33 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1461 This is a very interesting subject and experiment that I would like to see the results for. I was wondering the same thing and spoke to my Mentor about it. I am article marketing in my niche and was worried about duplicate content. I was told that some say that it exists and some say it doesn’t. However I think it does to some extent and when Google change their algorithms that you do get slapped eventually. How hard may depend on the content of the site and other factors that I don’t have a clue about.

Great experiment! Good luck and look forward to the results.

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By: Mark Mason https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1458 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:34:43 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1458 @Alex — of course. I’m sorry. Did not mean to insult you.

I use phpBay. You can inject the phpBay code using a php echo command.

I will try to post the details later this week.

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By: Mark Mason https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1456 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:02:21 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1456 @Patrik — I think you are right. It will be nice to have data.

@Alex Net– the tag pages have excerpts from the articles that are tagged. After that, I add auctions. The description text for those auctions varies depending what is up for sale at ebay at the time.

Regarding tags, I am not sure if they are dead or alive. I find them very useful. For example, if you want to see all my posts on phpBay (the software I use for auctions), you can see them here on this tag page: http://www.masonworld.com/tag/phpbay/. Garry Conn has actually been able to rank tag pages for really competitive terms like Make Money Online.

@Alex Big — tag pages are usually constructed in archive.php. You simply edit the php code to insert whatever auction code that you want. I will send you an example. If there are more people interested in this, let me know.

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By: Forest https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1460 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:54:40 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1460 Oh looking forward to that post…. I rank well for a lot of tag pages too

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By: Big Blogger https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1459 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:47:40 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1459 No, no. No insulting, wanted just to clarify my question.
Comunication in written form in a foreign language sometimes can get difficult. 🙂

ciao
alex

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By: Big Blogger https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1457 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:12:02 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1457 I know what tags pages are and how to set them up (I too had some good results in the SERPS with them), what i DON’T know is how to append keyword related auctions at the bottom of tag pages.

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By: Big Blogger https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1455 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:17:37 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1455 How do you put auctions on tag pages ?

Can you show me this on one domain (must not be this one of the experiment).

Feel free to PM me

ciao
alex

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By: Alex at Net-Entrepreneur.com https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1454 Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:17:12 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1454 Hi Mark,

Can you explain again, please, how the auction items help you with avoiding contamination?

And, while we’re at it, I never really understood tags. When I started blogging a year ago, the word was that tags were obsolete and not as widely used within the WP community. So I never really took the time to get into it… tags? why? any benefit with the SE’s?

Cheers,
Alex

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By: Patrik Berggren https://www.latenightim.com/a-duplicate-content-experiment/#comment-1453 Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:32:03 +0000 http://www.masonworld.com/?p=1327#comment-1453 I know the blog will start rank, eventually.

I did this test a couple of months ago to the swedish SEO-community, showing that my original written content, published on 3 different locations ALL ranked on the same SERP, on the same keywords.

Will follow this experiment …

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